our debt for wars, for example, that were not paid for -- as i understand it when you pay for medicare and medicaid and some of the interests, everything else is paid for by loans. from china. if you want to talk about the numbers here, you have to talk about how to pay your bill. that's like having a conversation with your spouse, who i know and love, and you're going to talk around it but you're not going to look at the checkbook. that would be bologna and she wouldn't buy it either. >> in fact, you gave the answer paul ryan should have gave to chris wallace, tamron. >> really. >> that's what he should have said to chris wallace. we cannot afford to keep governing ourselves like this. bravo. in fact, we should call the rnc, they may have an opening at the rate we're going they're going to have openings come november 7th. >> i'm not up for hire, but thank you very much. great pleasure. thank you. up next, new reports say romney's advisers are divided over whether to attack president obama over libya or stay focused on the economy? this as the obama administration is still under fire o